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obviously, israel which is having already a grave concerns as we do about, for example, movements of chemical weapons that might occur in such a chaotic atmosphere and that could have an impact not just within syria but on the region as a whole. i'm encouraging to see that the syrian opposition created an umbrella group that may have more cohesion than they have had in the past. we're going to be talking to them. my enjoys will be traveling to, you know, various meetings that are going to be taking place with the international community and opposition. we consider them a legitimate representative of the aspirations of the syrian people. we're not yet prepared to recognize them as some sort of government in exile. but we do think that it is a broad-based representative group. one of the questions that we're going to continue to press is making sure that that opposition is committed to a democratic syria, an inclusive syria, a moderate syria. we have seen extremist elements insinuate themselves in to the opposition. and, you know, one of the things that we have to be on guard about, pa
obviously, israel which is having already a grave concerns as we do about, for example, movements of chemical weapons that might occur in such a chaotic atmosphere and that could have an impact not just within syria but on the region as a whole. i'm encouraging to see that the syrian opposition created an umbrella group that may have more cohesion than they have had in the past. we're going to be talking to them. my enjoys will be traveling to, you know, various meetings that are going to be...
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that's what israel wants to do. we saw how israel says they've destroyed most of those weapons, nevertheless for the first time, there were two long-range rockets fired from gaza towards tel aviv area for the first time, sirens surrounded in cel behind me this evening. two rockets fell harmlessly, close in fields near tel aviv. israel's trying to destroy that threat and say they'll do anything to destroy the threat, threat is still real. yes a ground invasion i would say is a legitimate fear among palestinians it could happen. >> this happen. ss in the context of no ongoing negotiations, nothing has happened on the palestinian front. they have gone to the united nations general assembly for some sort of informal or symbolic status, having a year ago lost their bid for some statehood declared by the security council. what happens next from that perspective? >> well, first of all from a palestinian perspective, two main palestinians factions have been at odds for years. they have been unable to put together a united p
that's what israel wants to do. we saw how israel says they've destroyed most of those weapons, nevertheless for the first time, there were two long-range rockets fired from gaza towards tel aviv area for the first time, sirens surrounded in cel behind me this evening. two rockets fell harmlessly, close in fields near tel aviv. israel's trying to destroy that threat and say they'll do anything to destroy the threat, threat is still real. yes a ground invasion i would say is a legitimate fear...
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the midst of a flairup between israel and gaza. we don't know what started the most-recent round of fighting, but we do know a strike killed the top commander of hamas in gaza on wednesday and that was followed by rocket attacks aimed the israel and tel aviv. the attacks appeared to be rapidly escalating including sounds they are preparing for a ground incursion. israeli tanks massing on the border with gaza. amid-all of this in the world, today washington was consumed with two issues. the first was the start of negotiations to head off a deliberate crisis that d.c. created for itself so they could come to a few new deal between the parties and congress on spending and taxes and the deficit. that negotiation started today. the white house said top staffers will be continuing those negotiations that started today even while the president is off on this big historic trip to asia. the other thing consuming washington is the investigation into what happened in benghazi. in the midst of his sex scandal, but the head of the cia david pet
the midst of a flairup between israel and gaza. we don't know what started the most-recent round of fighting, but we do know a strike killed the top commander of hamas in gaza on wednesday and that was followed by rocket attacks aimed the israel and tel aviv. the attacks appeared to be rapidly escalating including sounds they are preparing for a ground incursion. israeli tanks massing on the border with gaza. amid-all of this in the world, today washington was consumed with two issues. the...
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the midst of a flairup between israel and gaza. we don't know what started the most-recent round of fighting, but we do know a strike killed the top commander of hamas in gaza on wednesday and that was followed by rocket attacks aimed the israel and tel aviv. the attacks appeared to be rapidly escalating including sounds they are preparing for a ground incursion. israeli tanks massing on the border with gaza. amid-all of this in the world, today washington was consumed with two issues. the first was the start of negotiations to head off a deliberate crisis that d.c. created for itself so they could come to a few new deal between the parties and congress on spending and taxes and the deficit. that negotiation started today. the white house said top staffers will be continuing those negotiations that started today even while the president is off on this big historic trip to asia. the other thing consuming washington is the investigation into what happened in benghazi. in the midst of his sex scandal, but the head of the cia david pet
the midst of a flairup between israel and gaza. we don't know what started the most-recent round of fighting, but we do know a strike killed the top commander of hamas in gaza on wednesday and that was followed by rocket attacks aimed the israel and tel aviv. the attacks appeared to be rapidly escalating including sounds they are preparing for a ground incursion. israeli tanks massing on the border with gaza. amid-all of this in the world, today washington was consumed with two issues. the...
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israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has potential weapon in withholding tax revenue, collects on behalf of the palestinians. the best outcome here would be the united states goes well, we regret this, let's move on. and then the other aspect would, standing up immediately after this, but today in the u.n. and and say, i'm prepared to go into negotiations without preconditions. if you get those three, you know, legs of the stool, now you have something to kind of work with, if otherwise if everyone takes their own unilateral action you come out of this again, empowering hamas. >> p.j., where is the white house on this? i m
israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has...
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a bit of a loss for israel. the vote feared to make palestine less likely to negotiate a peace deal directly with israel. the united nations overwhelmingly voted to upgrade palestine's status to a nonmember state, and that allows them to go after israel and international court which could delay or complicate any efforts at forming an agreement that forms two independent states of palestine and israel. ambassador susan rice said she was disappointed by the vote. the u.s. had threatened funding in the west bank in the hopes of preventing it. and rice says that the only way to truly form an independent state of palestine is through direct talks with israel, something the u.s. is committed to. despite those words, palestinians took to the streets celebrating what they consider a victory and a step toward their own independence. the real test is going to be what happens next. do both sides come to the table and start talking about peace, something both israel and palestine say that they want. reporting live in washin
a bit of a loss for israel. the vote feared to make palestine less likely to negotiate a peace deal directly with israel. the united nations overwhelmingly voted to upgrade palestine's status to a nonmember state, and that allows them to go after israel and international court which could delay or complicate any efforts at forming an agreement that forms two independent states of palestine and israel. ambassador susan rice said she was disappointed by the vote. the u.s. had threatened funding...
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southern israel was not quite so lucky. there were five people injured there when a house was targeted by one of the rockets. today the deadliest day for gaza, more than 20 have been killed. the deadliest attack over the course of the day was in a residential building. more than 12 people were killed when the building was hit. and then proceeded to collapse. most of the people that were killed were from the same family, including women and children. richard? >> stephanie, we've been watching channel 2 news out of israel, quoting hamas saying the negotiations for the cease-fire have failed. and saying that 90% of demands, that was hamas is saying. 90% of demands have been met what are you hearing about the cease-fire? >> well our understanding is that those talks continue. even though those comments are being reported by israeli tv, coming from hamas, that the delegates from the palestinian side and from the israeli side. as well as egyptians and a qatari envoy are still talking about the cease-fire possibility. here on the
southern israel was not quite so lucky. there were five people injured there when a house was targeted by one of the rockets. today the deadliest day for gaza, more than 20 have been killed. the deadliest attack over the course of the day was in a residential building. more than 12 people were killed when the building was hit. and then proceeded to collapse. most of the people that were killed were from the same family, including women and children. richard? >> stephanie, we've been...
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that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me next. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. one big thing on the schedule today that everybody is fairly interested in. that's that lunch with mitt romney. we're told no cameras. we'll see. we of the white house press corps officially protesting. we'd like to force them to let there be some official fourth estate coverage of this historic event. we'll see if they grant it. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. a winter wonderland doesn't just happen. it takes some doing. some coordinating. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things
that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me...
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the whole trip to asia comes in the midst of a flairup between israel and gaza. we don't know what started the most-recent round of fighting, but we do know a strike killed the top commander of hamas in gaza on wednesday and that was followed by rocket attacks aimed the israel and tel aviv. the attacks appeared to be rapidly escalating including sounds they are preparing for a ground incursion. israeli tanks massing on the border with gaza. amid-all of this in the world, today washington was consumed with two issues. the first was the start of negotiations to head off a deliberate crisis that d.c. created for itself so they could come to a few new deal between the parties and congress on spending and taxes and the deficit. that negotiation started today. the white house said top staffers will be continuing those negotiations that started today even while the president is off on this big historic trip to asia. the other thing consuming washington is the investigation into what happened in benghazi. in the midst of his sex scandal, but the head of the cia david pet
the whole trip to asia comes in the midst of a flairup between israel and gaza. we don't know what started the most-recent round of fighting, but we do know a strike killed the top commander of hamas in gaza on wednesday and that was followed by rocket attacks aimed the israel and tel aviv. the attacks appeared to be rapidly escalating including sounds they are preparing for a ground incursion. israeli tanks massing on the border with gaza. amid-all of this in the world, today washington was...
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according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next, but those here in gaza say they are preparing for a ground invasion, and meaning if israel launches a war, they will fight and they are prepared to defend their territory as they say and on the same side israelis say they have finalized preparation for a ground invasion and now it is a matter of a political decision, and certainly something that everybody in cairo is trying to avert, but one that everybody here thinks it is not going to be averted any time soon. thomas? >> well, you talk about the diplomatic conversations in cairo, and what is on the table? what terms are being discussed? >> well, tw
according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next,...
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israel has been pounding gaza with air strikes. the attacks appeared to be rapidly escalating including signs that israel is preparing for a ground incursion into gaza. "the new york times" citing reports of israeli tanks massing on the border with gaza. amid all of this in the world, today washington was consumed with two major issues. the first was the start of negotiations to head off a deliberate crisis that d.c. created for itself so they could come to a few new deal between the parties and between the president and congress on spending and taxes and the deficit. that negotiation started today. the white house said top level white house staffers will be continuing those negotiations that started today, even while the president is off on this big, historic trip to asia. the other thing consuming washington today is many tentacled congressional investigation into what happened in libya back in september when the u.s. ambassador and three other americans were killed in an attack on a u.s. consulate there. in the midst of his own
israel has been pounding gaza with air strikes. the attacks appeared to be rapidly escalating including signs that israel is preparing for a ground incursion into gaza. "the new york times" citing reports of israeli tanks massing on the border with gaza. amid all of this in the world, today washington was consumed with two major issues. the first was the start of negotiations to head off a deliberate crisis that d.c. created for itself so they could come to a few new deal between the...
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israel's convinced they'll find natural causes. sorry. >> i was just saying, you and i remember, you better than anyone, from being there, and i remember covering the funeral, that there had been a lot of talk about arafat's being ill, his weakness, about his leadership, but it really is fascinating that in the intervening years and intervening eight years, the palestinians have divided between hamas and fatah more critically and really is a vacuum of leadership. >> no, that's right. no, you and i were at the funeral together, i remember it well. there is a vacuum of leadership -- what a day it was, absolutely. what a frenzy of mourning. it was amazing in those scenes at the time. yeah, you know there's a vacuum of leadership in one sense, hamas -- the split is what counts among the palestinians since then. hamas, of course, is completely taken over the gaza trip and has strong support in the west bank and the west bank is also by the way a strong leader in the west bank in terms of keeping his leadership position. by the way, we'l
israel's convinced they'll find natural causes. sorry. >> i was just saying, you and i remember, you better than anyone, from being there, and i remember covering the funeral, that there had been a lot of talk about arafat's being ill, his weakness, about his leadership, but it really is fascinating that in the intervening years and intervening eight years, the palestinians have divided between hamas and fatah more critically and really is a vacuum of leadership. >> no, that's...
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palestinians not only believe he was poisoned there's only one culprit, israel. if he was appointed and it was by israel, of course, who knows what the ramifications of that would be on the street. yeah, they want to make sure that the investigation is done as fairly and as objectively as possible. so what happened is they took 20 specimens from his bones today. those 20 specimens were divided into three, and each set of investigators from russia, france and switzerland took their 20 samples. they'll be doing separate investigations, and then they correlate the results to the end and we'll see whether they will agree or whether there's any dispute. there's a lot riding on this, of course. >> martin fletcher live in tel aviv. thank you. >>> new allegations involving former elmo puppeteer kevin clash. it tops our look at stories around the "news nation" today. a third lawsuit accuses clash of having sex with an underage boy. the latest accuser said he began a relationship with clash back in 2000. he was 16 years old at the time. a spokes woman for clash says, quote
palestinians not only believe he was poisoned there's only one culprit, israel. if he was appointed and it was by israel, of course, who knows what the ramifications of that would be on the street. yeah, they want to make sure that the investigation is done as fairly and as objectively as possible. so what happened is they took 20 specimens from his bones today. those 20 specimens were divided into three, and each set of investigators from russia, france and switzerland took their 20 samples....
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oil prices jump more than 1% after israel launched an operation against militants in benghazi, killing hamas's military chief. as for the economy, the retail sales fell in october, first decline in three months. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "hardball." >>> do you think photo i.d. would have made any difference? the outcome of this election? >> yes, i think so. we're looking at all sorts of different precincts and all sorts of same-day registrations. people will go on, we don't have fraud and abuse in our election, but why couldn't we have voter i.d. when majority of our people in wisconsin want it, the governor signed it. why should one judge be able to hold it up? >> there you have the problem with the republican party. pay a lot of attention to that what that woman just said, senate senator. that's the state -- state senator wisconsin, i don't know her, served as mitt romney's co-chair in the state and now she's saying suppressing the voter i.d. cards would have made the difference in wisconsin. let's look at the facts. apparently she's not interested
oil prices jump more than 1% after israel launched an operation against militants in benghazi, killing hamas's military chief. as for the economy, the retail sales fell in october, first decline in three months. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "hardball." >>> do you think photo i.d. would have made any difference? the outcome of this election? >> yes, i think so. we're looking at all sorts of different precincts and all sorts of same-day...
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israel's been trying to destroy their ability do so. but israel said they had destroyed most of the long-range hamas rockets in last 24 hours but they have been falling. another rocket did fall ten kilometers six or seven miles south of tel aviv, that fell an hour and a half ago, actually while we were driving by, we didn't see it. the capability has not been destroyed apparently. and that suggests that israel will continue with its attack. it will get stronger. and the ground invasion of gaza is possible. the prime minister netanyahu said, israel will do whatever it takes to stop the rockets. >> remind viewers the geography, the tight geography of the area between gaza and israel and we talk about long-range missiles but they don't need to be that long of a range. >> reporter: no, they've got to be 45 miles. 70 kilometers. the distance from one end of manhattan to midway through long island, that's the distance we're talking about. >> martin fletcher, reporting from tel aviv. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thanks, thomas. >>> i'l
israel's been trying to destroy their ability do so. but israel said they had destroyed most of the long-range hamas rockets in last 24 hours but they have been falling. another rocket did fall ten kilometers six or seven miles south of tel aviv, that fell an hour and a half ago, actually while we were driving by, we didn't see it. the capability has not been destroyed apparently. and that suggests that israel will continue with its attack. it will get stronger. and the ground invasion of gaza...
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are planning to retaliate against israel? >> reporter: no, none whatsoever. they say they're committed to this truce. they don't want the situation to escalate. there has been some criticism as to why the local police allowed the people to get close to the area knowing that that no go area has been in place. i think the misunderstanding, including from the brother of the man who died today, he was saying that it was not clear that that no go area was still being enforced after wednesday's truce. for now palestinian factions here denounced it. they have no intention to retaliate other than to simply complain to the egyptians and mark it as a cease fire violation. >> martin, any view that they'll view it as the palestinians trying to instigate violence? >> reporter: no, that's right. no, i don't think there's any sense here that the palestinians, certainly not hamas, was trying to violence. i don't think anyone believes that this particular incident was part of a bigger picture. it does seem to be what ayman said which is peopl
are planning to retaliate against israel? >> reporter: no, none whatsoever. they say they're committed to this truce. they don't want the situation to escalate. there has been some criticism as to why the local police allowed the people to get close to the area knowing that that no go area has been in place. i think the misunderstanding, including from the brother of the man who died today, he was saying that it was not clear that that no go area was still being enforced after wednesday's...
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/israel relations convening this week. thanks very much. what is the significance of what happened at the u.n.? a step forward, a step back or status quo? >> i guess a step sideways, out of the normal channel for resolving the conflict peacefully, that is through negotiati negotiations, sideways to the united nations. it doesn't move the palestinians forward. it's a significant but symbolic act. and if it produces a kind of punitive, vicious circle in which the israelis now announce more settlement activity, the particularly strategic activity it seems to be, and then the palestinians decide to go to the international criminal court who would charge israel with some crimes and then we'll get into a downward spiral, the congress cuts the funds to the palestinian authority, we could be in very negative territory quite quickly and bear in mind that there's an election coming up in israel in which an outbidding process is likely to occur. already you have lieberman calling for the toppling of abu mazen and unfortunately there isn't an actual ne
/israel relations convening this week. thanks very much. what is the significance of what happened at the u.n.? a step forward, a step back or status quo? >> i guess a step sideways, out of the normal channel for resolving the conflict peacefully, that is through negotiati negotiations, sideways to the united nations. it doesn't move the palestinians forward. it's a significant but symbolic act. and if it produces a kind of punitive, vicious circle in which the israelis now announce more...
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palestinian officials believe he may have been poisoned by israel. a claim israel denies. he died in paris in 2004, a month after falling suddenly ill at his west bank compound. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> the high financial cost of hurricane sandy is coming into focus. new york has requested $42 billion in aid and new jersey officials estimate they suffered at least $29 billion in losses, bringing the total of $71 billion in the two hardest hit states. sandy was in some ways worse than hurricane katrina, citing the high economic cost and property destruction. meanwhile, a top executive and a trustee for the power company have resigned in the wake of the company's slow response in getting power back to new yorkers on long island. >>> here's a look at some of the other stories topping the news right now. a fast-moving storm system sweeping through the mid-atlantic this morning bringing a wet mixture of rain and snow. the storm is expected to put down 1
palestinian officials believe he may have been poisoned by israel. a claim israel denies. he died in paris in 2004, a month after falling suddenly ill at his west bank compound. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> the high financial cost of hurricane sandy is coming into focus. new york has requested $42 billion in aid and new jersey officials estimate they suffered at...
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how about on israel? after the iraq war debacle, the time when the george bush administration turned grief and anger and horror over what happened on 9/11 into a false pretense for attacking a totally unrelated country and starting a war that it took nine years to get out of. ten years on from that unmitigated foreign policy disaster perpetrated by the last republican administration, ten years later, the democrats who went along with that misadventure paid a heavy political price. it's not an accident that so many leading democrats at the time voted to go along with george bush's march to war. it's not an accident that none of them ended up becoming president. it's not an accident that the guy who did become president was the guy who was against the war from the beginning. these are not two unrelated circumstances. the democratic party had a real reckoning about what they got wrong by going along with that bush administration hoax and that disaster perpetrated on the american people. even the press went t
how about on israel? after the iraq war debacle, the time when the george bush administration turned grief and anger and horror over what happened on 9/11 into a false pretense for attacking a totally unrelated country and starting a war that it took nine years to get out of. ten years on from that unmitigated foreign policy disaster perpetrated by the last republican administration, ten years later, the democrats who went along with that misadventure paid a heavy political price. it's not an...
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one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which point the figure leaf kind of came away. the administration did a great job actually tactically, playing both of those roles in a way that they hadn't done at all during the first term, sending the secretary of state out to be the arbiter while the president could give the defender of israel speeches like that that's a tactical solution that doesn't get anywhere near the long-term structural problem that it isn't the same middle east that it was five years ago. what do you do instead? how do you serve the long-term interests of israel, especially when maybe many americans don't see israel's long-term inte
one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which...
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they hate their neighbor, israel. israel, their neighbor, hates them. most of the area is very, very poor. there is a degree of hopelessness here. they have managed -- the israelis have said to the egyptians, with this deal, now gaza is your problem. if rockets come out of here, the egyptians are going to be responsible for talking to hamas. both of you are sort of from similar parties. the islamic hamas group, which is an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, and the muslim brotherhood in egypt, hamas managed to say, okay, you two sort things out together, and we'll see how this goes. >> richard, one of the other things i was struck by is how vague what both sides agreed to is. both sides have agreed to not breach acts for this understanding. it's almost like a fortune cookie, meaningless vague. does that vagueness make a stronger agreement or a weaker one. does that say anything to you? >> reporter: i think this got lawyered pretty hard. what that means is that israel is not supposed to carry out any sort of targeted assassinations. and when you start t
they hate their neighbor, israel. israel, their neighbor, hates them. most of the area is very, very poor. there is a degree of hopelessness here. they have managed -- the israelis have said to the egyptians, with this deal, now gaza is your problem. if rockets come out of here, the egyptians are going to be responsible for talking to hamas. both of you are sort of from similar parties. the islamic hamas group, which is an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, and the muslim brotherhood in egypt,...
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and to make the southern cities of israel secure. the defense minister said today and he emphasized this, and we will do anything, and i repeat anything to keep those cities secure. the israelis are emphasizing repeatedly from different sources they'll do whatever it takes. when the americans warn that israel will do more this evening, they're echoing what the israeli spokesman said earlier. this is a very difficult night ahead. >> and martin, i'm sure you heard our colleague talk about the level of tension and how the expectation of what is next is consuming those that he's witnessed in gaza. what are seeing there? is there a worry this will escalate beyond the point that we are now, which is frightening in itself? >> reporter: it certainly is frightening in itself. the big fear is of a ground invasion by israeli forces into gaza. the air attacks are bad enough and killed 13 palestinians at least. they've injured a couple of hundred, and on the israeli side three israelis were killed today, and about 70 are in hospital. most of them
and to make the southern cities of israel secure. the defense minister said today and he emphasized this, and we will do anything, and i repeat anything to keep those cities secure. the israelis are emphasizing repeatedly from different sources they'll do whatever it takes. when the americans warn that israel will do more this evening, they're echoing what the israeli spokesman said earlier. this is a very difficult night ahead. >> and martin, i'm sure you heard our colleague talk about...
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it's changing by the minute out of israel. this morning israeli tv reporting three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern part of the country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive new campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year, they say, launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself but also urging him to not have civilian casualties. this youtube video showing an air strike yesterday killing the top military commander of hamas. it was part of a widespread campaign against targets that the israeli military says it will broaden in the coming days. this morning defense forces dropped leaflets over gaza warning residents to stay away from hamas operatives. on twitter, a clear message from israeli defense forces. quote, we recommend that no hamas operatives, whether low level or senior leaders, show their faces above ground in t
it's changing by the minute out of israel. this morning israeli tv reporting three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern part of the country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive new campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year, they say, launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself but also...
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israel. that's where i want to begin this morning. i've got nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell and "new york times" columnist tom friedman. who better to have to discuss this. tom, as the two sides get closer to the brink, based on your experience and reporting, where is this going? >> let's just go around the horn, david, quickly. i think hamas is trying to use this moment to both break out of the blockade and try to end targeted killing of its leaders from israel, and trying to take advantage of the new arab spring balance of power, the muslim brotherhood in egypt, to leverage that possibility. israel. israel has been watching for the last six to nine months hamas bringing in longer and longer range missiles from iran. i think they saw this as an opportunity of necessity to take those out, missiles that can now hit tel aviv and jerusalem. egypt. this is a real problem for egypt. you have a new government there that needs money from the united states. they don't want t
israel. that's where i want to begin this morning. i've got nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell and "new york times" columnist tom friedman. who better to have to discuss this. tom, as the two sides get closer to the brink, based on your experience and reporting, where is this going? >> let's just go around the horn, david, quickly. i think hamas is trying to use this moment to both break out of the blockade and try to end targeted killing of its leaders...
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how do you serve israel when many americans don't see israel's long term interest as they do. we are not talking about the hundreds of people who died in syria over the time of gaza. we have a long -- you know, the administration did a great job on the short term, but we have a long term problem that our political system won't let us figure out. >> picking up on what heather is saying it poses a test for the obama administration and the trons formation in the middle east. you see it in the fascinating relationship between president obama and morsi. two pragmatists trying to find a way to mediate this immediate conflict. you see it against the backdrop of an islamist backdrop of turkey and the riots in jordan that will cause increasing problems. you have that changing environment which you know more about. the arabs need something different. the governments need to be more responsive to their people. it's an opening for a different relationship. no american president is going to criticize, i would argue, israel's launching of this war. it is an opening for our relationship with
how do you serve israel when many americans don't see israel's long term interest as they do. we are not talking about the hundreds of people who died in syria over the time of gaza. we have a long -- you know, the administration did a great job on the short term, but we have a long term problem that our political system won't let us figure out. >> picking up on what heather is saying it poses a test for the obama administration and the trons formation in the middle east. you see it in...
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involvement from the start in the creation of israel. a deep concern about wanting to help israel secure itself. but also bring about peace in the middle east. i'd like to complicate this story more by bringing in a regional context. yes, there is internal politics that drives this, there's history that drives it. israel and hamas are dealing with a different regional context as well. hamas had been tolerated by but not really liked by the mubarak government in israel which is in many ways the patron of palestinians in the middle east. the morsi government is more supportive of hamas. they used to be based in damascus, syria. they moved out pretty much just in time as the assad regime begins to crumble there and have found new friend in the region as they distance themselves from syria. israel is finding a region in which it has fewer friend and hamas is in a region in which it has fewer allies. growing arab frustration over lack of progress in the peace process has also driven countries in the region to hamas as well. >> this is where i
involvement from the start in the creation of israel. a deep concern about wanting to help israel secure itself. but also bring about peace in the middle east. i'd like to complicate this story more by bringing in a regional context. yes, there is internal politics that drives this, there's history that drives it. israel and hamas are dealing with a different regional context as well. hamas had been tolerated by but not really liked by the mubarak government in israel which is in many ways the...
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breaking news right now from israel. this morning, israeli television is reporting that three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern region of that country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself following but also urging netanyahu to avoid civilian casualties. hours earlier the israeli government posted this video from youtube showing an air strike yesterday in gaza that killed ahmed al jabari, he is the top military member of hamas. that was a widespread campaign against hamas targets that the israeli military had said it will broaden in the coming days. this morning israeli defense forces, the idf, dropped leaflets over gaza warning residents there to stay away from hamas operatives. >>> also on twitter, a clear message from the i
breaking news right now from israel. this morning, israeli television is reporting that three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern region of that country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself following...
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the concern is whether israel will launch a ground offensive. there is precedence for it. that's why many palestinians are fearful that in the coming days this can only get worse. a lot of people are questioning the effects of all of this. why is israel continuing to carry out these attacks if it has not been able to stop the rocket fire it set out to stop. when it launched the operation four years ago, it was precisely the same modus operandi for the same objectives. we're four years later, palestinians have rockets now reaching the southern tip of tel aviv. hamas is more entrenched. the situation has not changed for the southern part of israel nor for the people of gaza. the only thing that's changed is the arab spring and we're seeing a country like egypt trying to play a more active role in mediating a truce. egypt's prime minister is expected to make a trip to the gaza strip with the hopes of trying to calm the situation down and expressing his solidarity with the people of gaza. >> stay safe and thank you. we will have more on this rapidly developing situation in the
the concern is whether israel will launch a ground offensive. there is precedence for it. that's why many palestinians are fearful that in the coming days this can only get worse. a lot of people are questioning the effects of all of this. why is israel continuing to carry out these attacks if it has not been able to stop the rocket fire it set out to stop. when it launched the operation four years ago, it was precisely the same modus operandi for the same objectives. we're four years later,...
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hitting two of the most sensitive places of israel. essentially a game changer, and it's recharging the cal lags, if you will, for israeli officials who have deployed thousands of troops along the border. some anticipate this could be the precise moment there could be a ground invasion to suppress that rocket fire. more importantly, it's going to have a humanitarian toll on the he people of gaza. it's densely populated. when it invades gaza, civilians have the brunt of it. six children died. it's a dire humanitarian situation. there's growing concern as it to what the new calculus would bring for the people of gaza for the civilian population here. so far there's no end in sight or truth being brokered, and that's why it's safe to say that fear is definitely the reigning sentiment among the people of gaza so far. s.e. >> stay safe. >>> now to the spin cycle. back here david petraeus testified behind closed doors today in front of the house and senate intelligence committees about the events surrounding the deadly september 11th attack
hitting two of the most sensitive places of israel. essentially a game changer, and it's recharging the cal lags, if you will, for israeli officials who have deployed thousands of troops along the border. some anticipate this could be the precise moment there could be a ground invasion to suppress that rocket fire. more importantly, it's going to have a humanitarian toll on the he people of gaza. it's densely populated. when it invades gaza, civilians have the brunt of it. six children died....
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. >>> so the fighting began last week when hamas launched hundreds of rockets at israel, which were, i guess, in retaliation for israel killing the head of hamas's military, which was retaliation for hamas holding an israeli soldier hostage for five years, which might have been retaliation, which was in retaliation from what i heard is -- let's go back to when this thing first started. ♪
. >>> so the fighting began last week when hamas launched hundreds of rockets at israel, which were, i guess, in retaliation for israel killing the head of hamas's military, which was retaliation for hamas holding an israeli soldier hostage for five years, which might have been retaliation, which was in retaliation from what i heard is -- let's go back to when this thing first started. ♪
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if you look at this, israel really picked the timing. israel could have gone into a war with hamas almost at any time and found its rocket launches as a pretext. but it chose to do it now. israel has been testing its iron dome defense systems, which would certainly come into play if there was a war with iran. it's been testing the new middle east, testing egypt's stance, forging new relations with rob morrison -- mohamed morsi, seeing how the arab world is post the arab spring. testing hezbollah and testing president obama, who interestingly immediately threw his lot in with israel. the president didn't say we want to call for cessation of hostilities and calm, he said we agree with israel's right to defend itself. israel's real enemy is iran. if remember netanyahu was at the u.n. holding up his bomb chart. he wasn't talking about hamas. he was talking about iran. that is israel's overriding threat. they have been able to deal with hamas pretty handedly. i've seen just yesterday israeli warships able to take out a single hamas militant w
if you look at this, israel really picked the timing. israel could have gone into a war with hamas almost at any time and found its rocket launches as a pretext. but it chose to do it now. israel has been testing its iron dome defense systems, which would certainly come into play if there was a war with iran. it's been testing the new middle east, testing egypt's stance, forging new relations with rob morrison -- mohamed morsi, seeing how the arab world is post the arab spring. testing...
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we're live in israel. that's next. "the daily rundown" will be back in 30 seconds. >>> as we told you, a really busy day on capitol hill. these are live pictures with the senate armed services committee. they're holding a confirmation hearing for general dunford, he was nominated. allen's nomination is on hold. but dunford's nomination is going forward. >>> a barrage of rocket attacks in israel overnight appear to be pushing that region closer to, who knows, hopefully not all all-out war. it could turn into a ground campaign before long. and eman joins me. this all started not just to respond to what had been a slew of attacks by hamas over the border, but they went after a specific hamas leader. tell us more. >> reporter: well, chuck that really depends on who you ask, there's no doubt from the israeli narrative that they felt that a number of rocket attacks coming from gaza into southern israel, that started the response. if you ask those here, it's actually been a continuous attack on the gaza strip. and that ultima
we're live in israel. that's next. "the daily rundown" will be back in 30 seconds. >>> as we told you, a really busy day on capitol hill. these are live pictures with the senate armed services committee. they're holding a confirmation hearing for general dunford, he was nominated. allen's nomination is on hold. but dunford's nomination is going forward. >>> a barrage of rocket attacks in israel overnight appear to be pushing that region closer to, who knows,...
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israel is balking at that. it reportedly is saying while it agrees with the principle of lifting the siege eventually, it does not agree with the timing. it wants to postpone it until later, some say until after the elections. >> jim, real quickly, your reporting, you've been able to learn there are reports of security forces in egypt intercepting and seizing smuggled weapons. what more do we know about that? >> reporter: yes. that is correct. it's a vivid example of the problems of post cease fire here because of the possible rearming of hamas. the government did announce today that its security fors caught a group of smugglers with two truckloads of rockets in the northwest part of the country. there were mortars, rpgs, at least two or three dozen rockets. and these were meant either for mill tanls in the sinai or in gaza. and of course israel is trying to seek international guarantees that this kind of activity stoms completely and that is another sticking point. >> jim, the source of those weapons? who are
israel is balking at that. it reportedly is saying while it agrees with the principle of lifting the siege eventually, it does not agree with the timing. it wants to postpone it until later, some say until after the elections. >> jim, real quickly, your reporting, you've been able to learn there are reports of security forces in egypt intercepting and seizing smuggled weapons. what more do we know about that? >> reporter: yes. that is correct. it's a vivid example of the problems of...
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. >> what does this do to israel and to the united states? >> well, look. i mean we -- let's not -- you know egypt is the most important arab state, the first state to sign a peace treaty with israel in the 1970s. egypt is a major, major ally of the united states, not vis-a-vis just israel but also in the broader middle east as well. it affects not just egypt but the neighborhood as well. egypt played a critical role this brokering a truce between hamas and israel. hamas looks up to morsi. hamas listens them. even israel, i would argue, recognize the frounld invasion of hamas because egypt is a pivotal player and because the peace treaty was on line. that's why what happens in egypt not only affects egyptians, it affects the neighborhood and egypt relation with the person powers. in particular it affects them in the middle east and rain world. >> right now a 100-constituent assembly is working on drafting a constitution in egypt. liberals and christians walked out. so basically it's being run by islamists now. some have said part of president morsi's calcul
. >> what does this do to israel and to the united states? >> well, look. i mean we -- let's not -- you know egypt is the most important arab state, the first state to sign a peace treaty with israel in the 1970s. egypt is a major, major ally of the united states, not vis-a-vis just israel but also in the broader middle east as well. it affects not just egypt but the neighborhood as well. egypt played a critical role this brokering a truce between hamas and israel. hamas looks up to...
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he immediately said we agree with israel's right to defend itself. israel's real enemy is iran. they were at the u.n. holding up his bomb chart. he was talking about iran. that is israel's overriding threat. they have been able to deal with them handedly. i have seen yesterday israeli warships able to take out a single hamas militant who was sitting in a chair by the water front. so one warship fired a rocket. you could barely ship on the horizon. israel has been telephoning the houses of neighbors of militants and telling them to get out. it has their phone numbers. so there's something suspicious. israel has too much intelligence. they have been able to deal with them too confidently. you have to wonder is there really a different objective. >> could it be better for israel to get rid of the missile sites in hamas before they attack iran? therefore, they can't be used for retaliation? >> reporter: that's an extra bonus. you get to defend your own cities. you figure out how well the iron dome system works, which is an untested system. you set back hamas's capabilities. you test
he immediately said we agree with israel's right to defend itself. israel's real enemy is iran. they were at the u.n. holding up his bomb chart. he was talking about iran. that is israel's overriding threat. they have been able to deal with them handedly. i have seen yesterday israeli warships able to take out a single hamas militant who was sitting in a chair by the water front. so one warship fired a rocket. you could barely ship on the horizon. israel has been telephoning the houses of...
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a different scene here in israel. there was empty streets, quiet, a sense here there's nothing much to celebrate. the israeli defense minister said this is a cease-fire that he believes will be recognized and enforced but also said, judging by experience, it may not last very long. that's what we have here in israel. skepticism about the cease-fire. great hope it will last. another development this morning, the israelis on the west bank arrested about 55 members of the hamas and other islamic militant organizations in gaza, saying that they represented the terrorist threat and that follows the bus bomb yesterday here in tel aviv. the first bus bomb, first bomb attack in tel aviv in six years. that's a reminder that although israel now has a cease-fire in gaza and everyone's working on maintaining the cease-fire and enforcing it, israel has plenty of other problems, too, it needs to face up with. >> martin fletcher, thank you. >>> back here at home, millions of people hitting the roads, the runways and malls over the n
a different scene here in israel. there was empty streets, quiet, a sense here there's nothing much to celebrate. the israeli defense minister said this is a cease-fire that he believes will be recognized and enforced but also said, judging by experience, it may not last very long. that's what we have here in israel. skepticism about the cease-fire. great hope it will last. another development this morning, the israelis on the west bank arrested about 55 members of the hamas and other islamic...
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any more than it's in israel's interests. so -- but these are people who have long been in opposition and they're having to learn to balance these political calculations as they go forward. >> right. and there's no rest after election day when you're the active president. p.j. will stay with us as we turn to another discussion right on point with president obama's foreign policy team. many republicans are attacking ambassador susan rice, a top candidate to replace secretary of state clinton. the senate has spiked some key nominations from president obama before, from elizabeth warren to nobel peace prize winner peter diamond. there is one number that suggests obama is likely to win this battle. we will look at the math after the break on "now." so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? [ male announcer ] it's that time of year. time for
any more than it's in israel's interests. so -- but these are people who have long been in opposition and they're having to learn to balance these political calculations as they go forward. >> right. and there's no rest after election day when you're the active president. p.j. will stay with us as we turn to another discussion right on point with president obama's foreign policy team. many republicans are attacking ambassador susan rice, a top candidate to replace secretary of state...
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and then israel will stand down. under the current situation, martin, with the prime minister -- israeli prime minister facing elections in january, he has to basically satisfy an unremitting requirement on the part of the israeli population to finally deal hamas a real immortal blow. thank you, gentlemen, both. and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ open enrollment ends december 7th. so now's the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doe
and then israel will stand down. under the current situation, martin, with the prime minister -- israeli prime minister facing elections in january, he has to basically satisfy an unremitting requirement on the part of the israeli population to finally deal hamas a real immortal blow. thank you, gentlemen, both. and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the...
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deal ensuring that israel would keep its word. but back in the united states senator john mccain called for the u.s. to offer its own mediator to try to bring out a permanent truce. >> the united states of america has got to push as hard as we can to resolve this israeli/palestinian issue. so many events hinge on making that process go forward. find someone even as high ranking, frankly, as former president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he'd hate me for saying that, but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker, but we have a lot of work to do to regain some credibility because we're crumbling all over the middle east. >>> any moment now president obama is set to touch down in cambodia, the second of two asian nations that no sitting u.s. president has visited before. first myanmar, a country rapid by transitioning from years of brutal military rule. president obama met with government officials as well as opposition leader aung san suu kyi wh
deal ensuring that israel would keep its word. but back in the united states senator john mccain called for the u.s. to offer its own mediator to try to bring out a permanent truce. >> the united states of america has got to push as hard as we can to resolve this israeli/palestinian issue. so many events hinge on making that process go forward. find someone even as high ranking, frankly, as former president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he'd hate me for saying that, but...
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and her egyptian counterpart announced the deal to end hostilities and greater cooperation between israel and gaza in the near future. >> the united states welcomes the agreement today for a cease-fire in gaza, for it to hold, the rocket attacks must end. a broader calm returned. the people of this region deserve the chance to live free from fear and violence and today's agreement is a step in the right direction that we should build on. >> this news comes after more than a week of violence that claimed 140 palestinian and 5 israeli lives. obviously, this day belongs to the israelis and palestinians. but americans should also look at today as proof that we got it right on election day. i want you to take a look at that scene again. that moment lasted just a few minutes. but it represents a week of slow, deliberate diplomacy by the president, secretary clinton and obama's foreign policy team. and a lot of patience. there was no sabre rattling, no caustic words, no cheap shots. for that you needed to turn to the republicans. >> if this god forbid conflict escalates, again, it is a sign of a
and her egyptian counterpart announced the deal to end hostilities and greater cooperation between israel and gaza in the near future. >> the united states welcomes the agreement today for a cease-fire in gaza, for it to hold, the rocket attacks must end. a broader calm returned. the people of this region deserve the chance to live free from fear and violence and today's agreement is a step in the right direction that we should build on. >> this news comes after more than a week of...
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only a 48-hour truce between israel and hamas. so there's a positive moves ahead going on trying to end this diplomatically. but not everybody is betting on that right now, alex. >> sounds like all the pieces are on the chess board for sure. thank you very much, martin fletcher. >> let's get some perspective on this crisis. joining me is military analyst general mccaffrey. is there a danger this could turn into a larger middle east war? >> no question. i think we're one step shorter of an all out ground operation in the gaza. i don't see how the israelis could top rate continued threat to huge parts of the civilian population. and then in the background, of course, we have the iranians and hezbollah on the lebanese southern border. the israelis are quite vulnerable to these rocket strikes. fit went to all-out war there would be significant israeli losses. >> all right, general, would the u.s. get involved militarily if this does escalate? >> i don't think so. i think the iranians would be loathe to actually start firing their long
only a 48-hour truce between israel and hamas. so there's a positive moves ahead going on trying to end this diplomatically. but not everybody is betting on that right now, alex. >> sounds like all the pieces are on the chess board for sure. thank you very much, martin fletcher. >> let's get some perspective on this crisis. joining me is military analyst general mccaffrey. is there a danger this could turn into a larger middle east war? >> no question. i think we're one step...